domingo, fevereiro 05, 2006

Drama



St Augustine's Confessions

Stage plays also captivated me, with their sights full of the images of my own miseries: fuel for my own fire. Now, why does a man like to be made sad by viewing doleful and tragic scenes, which he himself could not by any means endure? Yet, as a spectator, he wishes to experience from them a sense of grief, and in this very sense of grief his pleasure consists. What is this but wretched madness? For a man is more affected by these actions the more he is spuriously involved in these affections. Now, if he should suffer them in his own person, it is the custom to call this "misery." But when he suffers with another, then it is called "compassion." But what kind of compassion is it that arises from viewing fictitious and unreal sufferings? The spectator is not expected to aid the sufferer but merely to grieve for him. And the more he grieves the more he applauds the actor of these fictions. If the misfortunes of the characters--whether historical or entirely imaginary--are represented so as not to touch the feelings of the spectator, he goes away disgusted and complaining. But if his feelings are deeply touched, he sits it out attentively, and sheds tears of joy.

3. Tears and sorrow, then, are loved. Surely every man desires to be joyful. And, though no one is willingly miserable, one may, nevertheless, be pleased to be merciful so that we love their sorrows because without them we should have nothing to pity. This also springs from that same vein of friendship. But whither does it go? Whither does it flow? Why does it run into that torrent of pitch which seethes forth those huge tides of loathsome lusts in which it is changed and altered past recognition, being diverted and corrupted from its celestial purity by its own will? Shall, then, compassion be repudiated? By no means! Let us, however, love the sorrows of others.

6 Comments:

Anonymous Anônimo said...

one can only appreciate being joyful if they have also experienced the mournful....you never really appreciate your health, until you are sick!

6:35 PM  
Blogger Esteban said...

So what does Augustine’s interest in others sorrow illustrate--is he enjoying it because it highlights his own well being? Does he some sort of beauty or education in it?

I need some help on this part of this excerpt:

This also springs from that same vein of friendship. But whither does it go? Whither does it flow? Why does it run into that torrent of pitch which seethes forth those huge tides of loathsome lusts in which it is changed and altered past recognition, being diverted and corrupted from its celestial purity by its own will?

That same vein of friendship…seethes forth loathsome lust…it is changed….being diverted and corrupted from its celestial purity by its own will…??

10:09 PM  
Anonymous Anônimo said...

The excerpt pens a poignant regret fo a friendship based upon the temporal and fleeting, if the friendship is based upon the eternal, then the light obliterates the darkness, and the shadows of human fraility are dismissed as well - i.e. joy

8:06 AM  
Blogger Esteban said...

what brought you to interpret the excerpt in such a way?

i.e. joy?

i am not following you

8:31 AM  
Anonymous Anônimo said...

there is interpretation of the mind and of the heart, if you are gounded in faith, they join and you seek the joy in all things, not the sorrow

12:13 PM  
Blogger Esteban said...

if you are answering the question asked previous to your own post,i still do not follow you.

sorry, your are going to have to elaborate and point out what parts of the texts you are taking this understanding from

if it is just your opinion on the mind and the heart--then thank you for your comments

1:50 PM  

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